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Bug 14224 - Show watched status near "Watch this page" checkbox as well as on top
Show watched status near "Watch this page" checkbox as well as on top
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Product: MediaWiki
Classification: Unclassified
Page editing (Other open bugs)
unspecified
All All
: Low enhancement (vote)
: ---
Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
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Depends on:
Blocks:
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Reported: 2008-05-22 14:08 UTC by Danny B.
Modified: 2014-07-23 19:41 UTC (History)
5 users (show)

See Also:
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Mobile Platform: ---
Assignee Huggle Beta Tester: ---


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Description Danny B. 2008-05-22 14:08:02 UTC
It would be useful to show if the page is watched by the user who is editing it nearby "Watch this page" when editing it.

I'd suggest the form of:

[ ] Watch this page (watched)
[ ] Watch this page (not watched)
Comment 1 Nakon 2008-05-22 16:05:43 UTC
If the "Watch this page" checkbox is already selected the page is being watched.
Comment 2 Roan Kattouw 2008-05-22 16:27:47 UTC
As said in comment #1, you can see this because the checkbox is already checked if you're watching the page, and you can look on top of the page to see if it says "watch" or "unwatch" there.
Comment 3 Danny B. 2008-05-23 23:26:44 UTC
Turn on the "Add pages I edit to watchlist" preference, and you'll see _all_ checkboxes checked thus you have to scroll aaaaaaaall the way up to see if it's or it's not currently being watched, which is definitely not user friendly.
Comment 4 Aaron Schulz 2009-01-03 12:36:52 UTC
Closed
Comment 5 Danny B. 2009-01-04 02:22:53 UTC
Hasn't been solved -> reopening.
Comment 6 Gurch 2009-01-05 16:03:25 UTC
(In reply to comment #3)
> Turn on the "Add pages I edit to watchlist" preference, and you'll see _all_
> checkboxes checked thus you have to scroll aaaaaaaall the way up to see if it's
> or it's not currently being watched, which is definitely not user friendly.

"aaaaaaaall the way up"? How big is your edit form? :/

Comment 7 Danny B. 2009-01-05 18:41:11 UTC
> "aaaaaaaall the way up"? How big is your edit form? :/
> 

Typical question from person who uses big screen... ;-) (The answer is 30 lines, btw...)

Think about following:

1) How tall is my client height... (think about not everybody has browsers opened over full screen, as well as random toolbars, sidebars and statusbars take the space)
2) What is my screen resolution... (think about small clients such as PDAs, cell phones, etc.)
3) How big font I use... (think about visually impaired people)
4) How tall is the article preview above the editbox... (!!!)
5) Text user agents, screen readers, etc...

Lot of arguments for making the MediaWiki more user friendly...
Comment 8 Roan Kattouw 2009-01-07 14:08:20 UTC
Tweaking summary to be more descriptive.
Comment 9 Siebrand Mazeland 2009-02-02 12:36:32 UTC
Changed component to "Watchlist"
Comment 10 Gerrit Notification Bot 2014-07-23 18:12:03 UTC
Change 148716 had a related patch set uploaded by Ebe123:
Show whether a page is watched though a message while editing

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148716
Comment 11 James Forrester 2014-07-23 18:24:24 UTC
I think this adds unnecessary complexity, confusing and inclarity for an edge case without enough of a justification. WONTFIXing.
Comment 12 Gerrit Notification Bot 2014-07-23 18:24:55 UTC
Change 148716 abandoned by Jforrester:
Show whether a page is watched though a message while editing

Reason:
Yeah, sorry for this; I've WONTFIX'ed the bug.

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148716
Comment 13 Danny B. 2014-07-23 19:23:52 UTC
(In reply to James Forrester from comment #11)
> I think this adds unnecessary complexity, confusing and inclarity for an
> edge case without enough of a justification. WONTFIXing.

What is confusing and inclear on that? It actually requests to fix the already confusing behavior when unwatched pages are marked as watched.

Reopening.
Comment 14 James Forrester 2014-07-23 19:32:10 UTC
(In reply to Danny B. from comment #13)
> (In reply to James Forrester from comment #11)
> > I think this adds unnecessary complexity, confusing and inclarity for an
> > edge case without enough of a justification. WONTFIXing.
> 
> What is confusing and inclear on that? It actually requests to fix the
> already confusing behavior when unwatched pages are marked as watched.
> 
> Reopening.

No. You want to add extra complexity to an already-overloaded checkbox. As product manager for all Editing items, this is a clear WONTFIX.
Comment 15 Danny B. 2014-07-23 19:38:06 UTC
Already overloaded checkbox? By what? (Not even speaking about how a checkbox - thus binary signalization - can be [already] overloaded at all...)

Then please find any other solution how to signalize watched status in edit form, because the current status quo is confusing. Thank you.
Comment 16 Danny B. 2014-07-23 19:41:46 UTC
Thinking about it, it doesn't have to have anything in common with the checkbox - it can be just another message next to it. But if you prefer not to have it there, then how about putting it down on top of the section where "templates used" and "profiler data" sections are:

You [don't] watch this page.
Templates used on this page:
* foo
* bar
Profiler data:
...

or

This page is [not] watched by you.
Templates used on this page:
* foo
* bar
Profiler data:
...

or

any else wording...

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