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Bug 14083 - Wording of messages of category sections
Wording of messages of category sections
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Product: MediaWiki
Classification: Unclassified
Internationalization (Other open bugs)
1.12.x
All All
: Lowest enhancement (vote)
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Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category...
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Depends on:
Blocks:
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Reported: 2008-05-11 03:45 UTC by Dan Jacobson
Modified: 2011-03-13 18:06 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Description Dan Jacobson 2008-05-11 03:45:49 UTC
In http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:1980s_music_groups

   The following 200 pages are in this category, out of 1,180 total.

WRONG English!

I don't know the best English, but what you generate is a mid-sentence
impression that these 200 pages are all that is in the category.

Yes I am a native speaker, but I haven't spoken it in 15 years
regularly.

Please reword.

P.S.,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:House_music

   The following 41 pages are in this category, out of 41 total.

Can't that also be said in half the words?
Comment 1 Brion Vibber 2008-05-12 18:29:51 UTC
This is entirely grammatically correct, though awkward.
Comment 2 Jesse (Pathoschild) 2008-05-12 19:39:10 UTC
Maybe switching them around would help:
"There are 1,180 pages in this category (200 shown below)."
"There are 10 pages in this category."
Comment 3 Dan Jacobson 2008-05-13 00:16:38 UTC
> "There are 1,180 pages in this category (200 shown below)."
  "Pages 1-200 of 1,180 in this category:"
> "There are 10 pages in this category."
  "There are 10 pages in this category:"
Comment 4 Aryeh Gregor (not reading bugmail, please e-mail directly) 2008-05-13 00:22:38 UTC
I don't like the parenthesized or colon-ized versions.  "There are 10 pages in this category" omits the fact that they consist of the list following -- which may not be obvious, you can't expect the user to count that there are exactly 198 categories in the list or whatever.  The point was to clearly indicate 1) the number of categories listed, and 2) the total number of categories.

One possibility is that (1) could just be dropped: "There are 1,180 pages in this category", no indication of how many are on the current page.  I listed the number that were on the current page because that's what the old pre-category-table listing said, but I don't know if that's useful info?  There are other places we could put it, too, like in the headings or who knows where.
Comment 5 Siebrand Mazeland 2008-08-17 21:48:44 UTC
Component: Categories -> i18n
Summary: "The following 200 pages are in this category" -> "Wording of messages in category sections"
So we are talking about the set of messages below. If something needs to be changed, we might as well change them all. Bring it on and take your time. ;)

'category-subcat-count' => '{{PLURAL:$2|This category has only the following subcategory.|This category has the following {{PLURAL:$1|subcategory|$1 subcategories}}, out of $2 total.}}',
'category-subcat-count-limited' => 'This category has the following {{PLURAL:$1|subcategory|$1 subcategories}}.',
'category-article-count' => '{{PLURAL:$2|This category contains only the following page.|The following {{PLURAL:$1|page is|$1 pages are}} in this category, out of $2 total.}}',
'category-article-count-limited' => 'The following {{PLURAL:$1|page is|$1 pages are}} in the current category.',
'category-file-count' => '{{PLURAL:$2|This category contains only the following file.|The following {{PLURAL:$1|file is|$1 files are}} in this category, out of $2 total.}}',
'category-file-count-limited' => 'The following {{PLURAL:$1|file is|$1 files are}} in the current category.',
Comment 6 Siebrand Mazeland 2008-09-21 22:58:24 UTC
Closed as WONTFIX per comment 1. IMO there's not much to be fixed, and no feedback.

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