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Bug 12827 - Prominent Simple English Wikipedia Link on en.wikipedia
Prominent Simple English Wikipedia Link on en.wikipedia
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Product: Wikimedia
Classification: Unclassified
General/Unknown (Other open bugs)
unspecified
All All
: Lowest enhancement with 2 votes (vote)
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Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
: easy
: 12527 (view as bug list)
Depends on:
Blocks:
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Reported: 2008-01-29 01:18 UTC by penubag
Modified: 2011-03-13 18:05 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Description penubag 2008-01-29 01:18:59 UTC
I already have a bugzilla file on this but it was incorrectly filed, so refiling...

I have strong support from the community to add a simple English link on all articles on en wiki with a simple counter part.
Support is here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28proposals%29/Archive_10#Simple_English_Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28proposals%29/Archive_17#Simple_English
(these links will die when archived, a permanent link is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Penubag/Simple_English#Simple_English)

Basically, my initial idea was to have a template on all en wiki pages saying that a simple conterpart existed 20% opposed, but when I showed them [[Image:Simple English Sidebar3.png]] this proposal, there were no opposes.

Although we have a simple english link on our en.wiki page, it is so hidden that no one can expect a little kid to find the link, [[Image:Simple English Sidebar3.png]] this simple proposal should fix the problem and the community agrees.
Thanks
Comment 1 Casey Brown 2008-01-29 01:20:44 UTC
*** Bug 12527 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 2 penubag 2008-01-29 01:23:09 UTC
yes, I refiled this bug, my other one was a complete mess
Comment 3 Brion Vibber 2008-01-29 01:31:57 UTC
Currently the Simple English Wikipedia is not really supported, and is often considered an embarrassment and a mistake. Would recommend against pushing it with extra-prominent links unless there's some very firm intention to publicly support and push this wiki on the foundation's part.
Comment 4 penubag 2008-01-29 01:37:40 UTC
(In reply to comment #3)
> Currently the Simple English Wikipedia is not really supported, and is often
> considered an embarrassment and a mistake. Would recommend against pushing it
> with extra-prominent links unless there's some very firm intention to publicly
> support and push this wiki on the foundation's part.
> 

Users at the village pump agreed that making the link more prominent will attract new users and editors.  By this, the Simple English can finally live up to foundation standards.  By providing the link, more people will be attracted to improve it. 
Comment 5 Danny B. 2008-01-29 12:30:47 UTC
What stops you from using JavaScript in [[MediaWiki:Common.js]] to add such feature? I know, some users don't have JS on, however better something than nothing, right?
Comment 6 penubag 2008-01-29 17:26:43 UTC
(In reply to comment #5)
> What stops you from using JavaScript in [[MediaWiki:Common.js]] to add such
> feature? I know, some users don't have JS on, however better something than
> nothing, right?
> 

I'm not sure if this comment is directed towards me, but the purpose of my proposal is not to help me (I already know that there is a simple english link), but to help kids that do not have user accounts with their monobooks enabled.
Comment 7 Danny B. 2008-01-29 19:09:59 UTC
You don't need to have user account to see that link. If any admin will put necessary script in MediaWiki:Common.js, the prominent link will appear to everybody who doesn't have JS off (or unless somebody overrides it in own script).
Comment 8 penubag 2008-01-30 07:39:16 UTC
(In reply to comment #7)
> You don't need to have user account to see that link. If any admin will put
> necessary script in MediaWiki:Common.js, the prominent link will appear to
> everybody who doesn't have JS off (or unless somebody overrides it in own
> script).
> 

Oh, well, I'm not an admin or anything.
Comment 9 Chad H. 2008-06-17 15:49:08 UTC
WONTFIXing this. Like I said on bug 12527:

> ...how would it be done?
>
> $wgHasSimpleVersion? English is the only language with a simple version
> (afaik), so any changes to the code would need to be not-English-centric 
> (ie: usable across all languages). This being said, until/unless many 
> projects have simple versions, I'd suggest WONTFIXing this

A code change to add a box to Simple (that would need to be disabled on all wikis *except* enwiki) just isn't worth the effort. It's too "specifically-for-enwiki." As I (and Danny B) suggested, get it added to [[MediaWiki:Common.js]]. If there's consensus, you can find an admin to add it.

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