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Bug 12664 - Image: pages have poor usability
Image: pages have poor usability
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: MediaWiki
Classification: Unclassified
File management (Other open bugs)
unspecified
All All
: Normal enhancement (vote)
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Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pas...
: design
Depends on:
Blocks:
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Reported: 2008-01-17 13:24 UTC by Alan Donovan
Modified: 2014-04-09 15:48 UTC (History)
12 users (show)

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Assignee Huggle Beta Tester: ---


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Description Alan Donovan 2008-01-17 13:24:29 UTC
The Image: pages seem to be organised for librarians and computer scientists, not for ordinary readers. 

I think the usability of the Image: pages could be improved if the layout was reorganised.  I frequently (in fact, almost always) find myself scrolling up and down through screenfuls of junk (copyright information, image file metadata, version history info, etc) looking for the title of the picture and the paragraph of text describing it.   I think it's because the caption is sometimes absent, that I keep scrolling down beyond the point where it would appear without realising this.

Even the placement of the image, beneath the standard wikipedia title (which in this case is the name of the the image file--usually of no interest to readers), and to the right of the usual wikipedia link pane, is a waste of two large swathes of screen real-estate that could instead be filled with image and caption.

I think making a clear spatial separation between page content (the image, its title and caption) and metadata (who uploaded it, how many bits it, shutter speed, licensing, and other dorky details) would make this page more convenient to use, especially for larger images (or smaller screens).
Comment 1 Valerie Juarez 2013-04-03 20:22:03 UTC
Hi Alan! Sorry that nobody has taken a look at this report yet and given feedback. How do you think the current File page formats are? Do they address your issues? I don't know how they were in 2008, so I'm hesitant to just close this report.

The image given in the URL has been deleted, so I'll also update it with an arbitrary image. Thank you.
Comment 2 Quim Gil 2013-04-08 03:42:46 UTC
He has a point worth discussing imho. I believe it belongs to File management though, since this doesn't depend on the skin.
Comment 3 Brandon Harris 2013-04-08 04:04:43 UTC
This is a problem with File: and not Image: (As Image is a subset).

I'd love it if we could find a volunteer, GSOC student, or OPW intern to rebuild these pages but to be honest this is low priority.
Comment 4 Valerie Juarez 2013-04-08 04:14:28 UTC
You could add it to the list of possible projects: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mentorship_programs/Possible_projects
Comment 5 Quim Gil 2014-04-09 06:10:14 UTC
A year later... File: pages still look like before, but we have MediaViewer now, which is meant to provide the default user experience for user willing to consume media.

FIXED (if we look at the intent of the bug)? Otherwise, is the Multimedia team planning to improve the UX of the File: pages themselves?
Comment 6 Bawolff (Brian Wolff) 2014-04-09 14:07:24 UTC
(In reply to Brandon Harris from comment #3)
> This is a problem with File: and not Image: (As Image is a subset).
> 

You are missing some of the history. All file pages used to be called image pages. They were renamed a couple years back. Im guessing this bug was submitted before the rename.
Comment 7 Alan Donovan 2014-04-09 14:53:11 UTC
FWIW, nothing seems to have changed since my original bug report except that the "Image:" prefix is now spelled "File:".
Comment 8 Bawolff (Brian Wolff) 2014-04-09 15:16:05 UTC
(In reply to Alan Donovan from comment #7)
> FWIW, nothing seems to have changed since my original bug report except that
> the "Image:" prefix is now spelled "File:".

Alan - if you go to [[Special:preferences]] And in the beta features section enable "media viewer", does that give you a user experiance more in line with what you expect? I feel like it addresses some of your concerns in comment 0.
Comment 9 Alan Donovan 2014-04-09 15:29:46 UTC
Ah. Perhaps it does, but to try it out requires logging in (with different credentials from bugzilla.wikimedia.org).  I look forward to playing with this feature when it moves out of beta.
Comment 10 Bawolff (Brian Wolff) 2014-04-09 15:32:07 UTC
(In reply to Alan Donovan from comment #9)
> Ah. Perhaps it does, but to try it out requires logging in (with different
> credentials from bugzilla.wikimedia.org).  I look forward to playing with
> this feature when it moves out of beta.

That would be sometime tommorow (for mediawiki.org only)
Comment 11 Dan Garry 2014-04-09 15:48:57 UTC
The intent of this (make file pages better) is handled by the Media Viewer, so I'm marking this as fixed.

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