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Bug 12517 - Text change for MediaWiki:Clearyourcache
Text change for MediaWiki:Clearyourcache
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: MediaWiki
Classification: Unclassified
Special pages (Other open bugs)
unspecified
All All
: Normal enhancement (vote)
: ---
Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
: easy
Depends on:
Blocks:
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Reported: 2008-01-05 18:03 UTC by Steve
Modified: 2008-07-21 10:08 UTC (History)
5 users (show)

See Also:
Web browser: ---
Mobile Platform: ---
Assignee Huggle Beta Tester: ---


Attachments
Patch to implement change. (2.51 KB, patch)
2008-07-02 13:21 UTC, SQL
Details
Updated patch (2.61 KB, patch)
2008-07-02 13:58 UTC, SQL
Details

Description Steve 2008-01-05 18:03:45 UTC
The current message for MediaWiki:Clearyourcache is fine, but could include Ctrl-F5 as one of the Mozilla options. Might be nice to add a bit of color to the first sentence, to grab the user's attention - though I go agree that too much babysitting doesn't help new users learn. A suggested re-write is below. It includes some punctuation adjustments to conform to established standards (U.S. English) for published materials. (I like to see documentation follow the rules/standards, just like algorithms and code do).

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'''<font color="blue">Note - After saving, you may have to bypass your browser's cache to see the changes.</font>''' '''Mozilla / Firefox / Safari:''' hold down ''Shift'' while clicking ''Reload,'' or press either ''Ctrl-F5'' or ''Ctrl-Shift-R'' (''Cmd-Shift-R'' on a Macintosh); '''Konqueror:''' simply click the ''Reload'' button, or press ''F5;'' '''Opera:''' clear the cache in ''Tools → Preferences;'' '''IE:''' hold ''Ctrl'' while clicking ''Refresh,'' or press ''Ctrl-F5.''
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Please also consider this format instead, which helps readability a lot, though admittedly at the cost of screen real estate.

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'''<font color="blue">Note - After saving, you may have to bypass your browser's cache to see the changes.</font>'''

'''Mozilla / Firefox / Safari:''' hold down ''Shift'' while clicking ''Reload,'' or press either ''Ctrl-F5'' or ''Ctrl-Shift-R'' (''Cmd-Shift-R'' on a Macintosh);

'''Konqueror:''' simply click the ''Reload'' button, or press ''F5;''

'''Opera:''' clear the cache in ''Tools → Preferences;''

'''IE:''' hold ''Ctrl'' while clicking ''Refresh,'' or press ''Ctrl-F5.''
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Comment 1 Huji 2008-01-07 16:31:03 UTC
Are you certain Ctrl-F5 works on all of the three browsers (Mozila, Firefox and Safari)? I cannot verify it on Safari.
Comment 2 Steve 2008-01-07 18:22:49 UTC
Will check Safari and advise. Someone else will need to check Mozilla. I would be surprised if there were any difference between these three Mozilla-based browsers.
Comment 3 Steve 2008-01-24 01:54:11 UTC
Now suggesting this instead:

<!--
'''Note:''' After saving, you may have to bypass your browser's cache to see the changes. '''Mozilla / Firefox / Safari:''' hold down ''Shift'' while clicking ''Reload'', or press ''Ctrl-R'' (''Command-R'' on Apple Mac); '''IE:''' hold ''Ctrl'' while clicking ''Refresh'', or press ''Ctrl-F5''; '''Konqueror:''': simply click the ''Reload'' button, or press ''F5''; '''Opera''' users may need to completely clear their cache in ''Tools→Preferences''.
-->
'''<font color="darkblue">Note - After saving, you may have to bypass your browser's cache to see the changes.</font>'''

'''<font color="darkblue">Mozilla / Firefox / Safari:</font>''' hold ''<font color="blue">Shift</font>'' while clicking ''<font color="blue">Reload</font>,'' or press either ''<font color="blue">Ctrl-F5</font>'' or ''<font color="blue">Ctrl-R</font>'' (''<font color="blue">Command-R</font>'' on a Macintosh);

'''<font color="darkblue">Konqueror:</font> '''click ''<font color="blue">Reload</font>'' or press ''<font color="blue">F5</font>;''

'''<font color="darkblue">Opera:</font>''' clear the cache in ''<font color="blue">Tools → Preferences</font>;''

'''<font color="darkblue">IE:</font>''' hold ''<font color="blue">Ctrl</font>'' while clicking ''<font color="blue">Refresh</font>,'' or press ''<font color="blue">Ctrl-F5</font>.''


It is Command-R on a mac per http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=42951.

I cannot get confirmation on what it is on Safari for Windows.
Comment 4 Chad H. 2008-01-27 16:28:22 UTC
Correct me if I'm misunderstanding something, but don't system message 
changes (especially formatting) typically fall to the community's sysops 
to do?
Comment 5 Steve 2008-01-27 17:52:27 UTC
Not with regard to the distribution build.
Comment 6 Chad H. 2008-06-04 13:50:11 UTC
Steve: Any chance we can get a diff for this?
Comment 7 Steve 2008-06-04 17:10:51 UTC
Maybe. What's a diff?
Comment 8 SQL 2008-07-02 13:19:40 UTC
(In reply to comment #7)
> Maybe. What's a diff?
> 

No problem, I've done what I think you meant, and I'll diff it in a moment.

It should end up looking like this if I'm right:

<img src="http://toolserver.org/~sql/b12517.example.png" />

I'll post the diff in a moment.
Comment 9 SQL 2008-07-02 13:21:30 UTC
Created attachment 5038 [details]
Patch to implement change.
Comment 10 Bryan Tong Minh 2008-07-02 13:41:38 UTC
Suggest making "IE" "Internet Explorer". People using IE are more likely to not know what IE stands for.

Also I suggest using <span> or <div> instead of <font>.
Comment 11 SQL 2008-07-02 13:58:18 UTC
Created attachment 5039 [details]
Updated patch

Previous patch was purely the requestor's HTML... Updated to implement bryan's suggestions.
Comment 12 SQL 2008-07-02 20:29:53 UTC
Fixed in r36948 .
Comment 13 Lejonel 2008-07-02 22:58:23 UTC
I don't like this change. Blue text is supposed to be links. Even though the colour is not exactly the same as for links, I think it is not very good to have blue text that is not links.
Also putting lots of span tags in the message makes it harder for translators to translate.
Comment 14 SQL 2008-07-03 02:46:38 UTC
Come to think of it, that makes sense, how about I take out the coloring altogether? (I'm not a huge colored text fan.... Was just implementing it close to the way it was requested...)
Comment 15 SQL 2008-07-21 10:08:17 UTC
fixed in r36965 I believe.

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