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Bug 1133 - EmailUser: additional option to send a (blind) copy to oneself
EmailUser: additional option to send a (blind) copy to oneself
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: MediaWiki
Classification: Unclassified
Special pages (Other open bugs)
1.5.x
All All
: Normal enhancement with 9 votes (vote)
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Assigned To: T. Gries
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Depends on:
Blocks:
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Reported: 2004-12-19 09:51 UTC by T. Gries
Modified: 2010-05-15 15:37 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Assignee Huggle Beta Tester: ---


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Description T. Gries 2004-12-19 09:51:08 UTC
I proposed and will implement an additional option in EmailUser to send a
(blind) copy back to oneself.
Comment 2 T. Gries 2005-06-02 23:13:01 UTC
I have some proposals and would like to receive your comments:

Currently, e-mail user ( Special:Emailuser/Username ) shows _one_ "Send" button.

*** I propose to show a _second_ button 

    "Send with copy back to me" ***


Thus, the overhead for an additional user option can avoided.

Unfortunately, there is a) a potential privacy problem and b) a potential
spamfilter problem:

a) We cannot use TO:Username BCC:sendername(=me), because this would reveal the
sendername address to "me".
b) If we use TO:sendername(=me) BCC:Username, and Username has a strong
Spamfilter, this could prevent the BCC mail arriving in "Username"'s postbox.

An ad-hoc solution of both problems: let he Wikimailer send _two_ mails:

one mail TO:Username and a
second mail TO:sendername(=me) . 

But we must indicate in the mail (to me), to whom it was sent !
The only idea I have at the momenet is:

   to add a direct link to the wiki userpage User:Username in the mail body,
perhaps with an additional text
   "You have sent this mail to http://....../User:Username

Did I explain the issue concise enough ?
Has anyone a better proposal ?

Pls. can you post your ideas or "support" ?
Or perhaps better: someone of you Developers implements it before I do it - with
the consequence of complaints about my non-style of programming ;-)

Angela and Timwi supports the implementation of "sending a cc to sender".
Comment 3 bdk 2005-11-27 05:57:59 UTC
This is a very reasonable idea. The function is often requested by many users.
I really wonder how this bug could stay here for such a long time, apparently 
unregarded ;-) Anyway, it could be seen as a fairly effective control if an email 
was delivered successfully (at least with a high plausibility). 

For Wikimedia projects this feature request should, of course and due to privacy 
matters, be implemented as BCC, not as CC, because many users want to send an 
email, but don't want to reveal their email address at the first contact. 

Please consider to combine the implementation of such a checkbox with bug 832.
Comment 4 BLueFiSH.as from de.wp 2005-11-27 17:35:26 UTC
reclamation: your own email adress is revealed in every case you send an email
with the this function. just try. ;-)
Comment 5 T. Gries 2005-11-27 17:42:49 UTC
(In reply to comment #4)
> reclamation: your own email adress is revealed in every case you send an email
> with the this function. just try. ;-)

Can be changed similar, as it is implemented for email notifications: all
"EmailUser" mails need to come from the pseudo user FROM: "WikiAdmin <address>".

The two emails, one to recipient, and the copy to sender need probably to be
sent out separately to avoid revealing of addresses.
Comment 6 Brion Vibber 2005-11-27 21:40:31 UTC
No, it's quite deliberate that the from address is included. Using the wiki to 
anonymously e-mail bomb people is not welcome, and this will not ever be added as a 
feature.
Comment 7 Brion Vibber 2005-11-27 21:41:38 UTC
However the *to* address is kept hidden from the sender, so that the recipient has the 
option of revealing his/her address (by responding) or not. A simple BCC/CC on the 
message to the sender would reveal the recipient's address.
Comment 8 T. Gries 2005-11-27 21:44:59 UTC
(In reply to comment #7)
> However the *to* address is kept hidden from the sender, so that the recipient
has the 
> option of revealing his/her address (by responding) or not. A simple BCC/CC on
the 
> message to the sender would reveal the recipient's address.
> 

and what's your proposal for a solution ?
Comment 9 Rob Church 2005-11-27 23:12:35 UTC
Leave it to the leprechauns!
Comment 10 Larry Pieniazek 2006-05-22 17:19:55 UTC
I'd love to see this implemented somehow, I often find that I want a copy of
what I told someone else, and it's better to have it come from the server than
to have to remember to paste the text in somewhere and send it again or
whatever... I fully support the notion that the email address of the sender (the
from address) is revealed to the recepient. If i understand the issue here
though, the email address of the recepient (the to address) would be revealed if
it was done as a cc on the same mail. Could that be resolved by generating a
second mail to the receipient that just showed the wiki username that it was
sent to and did not show the actual email address?
Comment 11 Chris McKenna 2006-05-22 21:18:57 UTC
Alternatively (I don't know if this would be easier to program or not) the copy
sent to yourself could be shown with your email address in both from: and to:
fields, with the subject changed from "Wikipedia email" to "Wikipedia email to
User:<username>", e.g.

From: myemail@example.com
to: myemail@example.com
replyto: myemail@example.com
Subject: Wikipedia email to User:Example

I've seen this method used by several mass mailer programs to hide the address
of the sender. If a different email is required for the replyto: field, just set
up a single email address that dumps everthing to /dev/null à la Spamcop's
"statistical tracking" email addresses.
Comment 12 Larry Pieniazek 2006-05-22 21:47:46 UTC
That would work for me too. As long as it were something that let it be known
that you sent a mail to so and so. Not for evidence etc, that can be forged, but
for convenience, it's good to get copies of things you send, just so you know
what you said. I'm not too sussed about exactly how it's achieved.
Comment 13 Nick Jenkins 2006-11-03 05:52:48 UTC
Hopefully fixed in r17368.
Comment 14 T. Gries 2006-12-05 16:34:23 UTC
Great to see the new option now in dewiki, enwiki, mediawiki

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