Last modified: 2011-03-13 18:04:42 UTC
Please remove the [ ] surrounding [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice close]] from the page layout. If such Brackes are desired, they should rather be part of the message, than part of the fixed page layout.
See current http://ksh.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Sitenotice_close (with a small enough window width) as an example of the uglyness and waste of space that may result from the forced inclusion of [ ].
There is considerable precedent, however, for keeping incidental punctuation like this out of the message text; in a lot of cases, it looks much *better*. There are reasonable arguments either way.
I agree in general, and in the many, more repetitive cases.
This specific message is occurring only once in one place or not at all. There is no need to keep a common "look and feel" with a single message, but as the sample shows, there is a considerable drawback, at least in the monobook skin, when two messages appearing besides each other, and going together, cannont be formatted the same way.
Punctuation should always be localized, as far as I'm concerned. I don't see any reason for it to ever be hardcoded into the software. Of course, actually moving the punctuation into the message is a nuisance in that the message should really be renamed and backwards compatibility kept if it's to be done properly.
Same link style as used elsewhere for consistency.
Maybe use 'editsection-brackets' (preferably renamed to 'link-brackets' or something) from r23645? Assuming that stays.
@Brion: There is not compatibility to maintai with "elsewhere" - the contary is true, this is a solitarian message, and using layout styles of other messages is outright wrong.
To be more precise: s are being used auto-inserted next to headlines genereated from ==, ===, etc. Here is no such headline next to Sitenotice_close.
@Simetrical: This does NOT look like a solution for me. If I understood it right, you can choose to remove the s from BOTH editsections AND Sitenotice close, or from none of them.
Sitenotice close is a completely different type of message from Editsection. There is no point in forcibly putting them together. I don't mind [editsection] to remain as it is,
but I do want
to look more proper.
> @Brion: There is not compatibility to maintai with "elsewhere" - the contary is
> true, this is a solitarian message, and using layout styles of other messages
> is outright wrong.
Well, I respectfully disagree. As another part of the wiki user interface, it should remain consistent with other parts of the wiki user interface unless there is a good reason for it. The only reason I see stated above is that you think they're ugly, which I disagree with.