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Bug 10416 - MediaWiki:Sitenotice close - should not be enclosed in [ ] when rendered.
MediaWiki:Sitenotice close - should not be enclosed in [ ] when rendered.
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Product: MediaWiki
Classification: Unclassified
Parser (Other open bugs)
1.11.x
All All
: Lowest enhancement with 1 vote (vote)
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Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
http://ksh.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWi...
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Reported: 2007-06-30 19:00 UTC by Purodha Blissenbach
Modified: 2011-03-13 18:04 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Description Purodha Blissenbach 2007-06-30 19:00:50 UTC
Please remove the [ ] surrounding [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice close]] from the page layout. If such Brackes are desired, they should rather be part of the message, than part of the fixed page layout.

See current http://ksh.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Sitenotice_close (with a small enough window width) as an example of the uglyness and waste of space that may result from the forced inclusion of [ ].
Comment 1 Rob Church 2007-06-30 22:13:52 UTC
There is considerable precedent, however, for keeping incidental punctuation like this out of the message text; in a lot of cases, it looks much *better*. There are reasonable arguments either way.
Comment 2 Purodha Blissenbach 2007-06-30 23:48:13 UTC
I agree in general, and in the many, more repetitive cases.

This specific message is occurring only once in one place or not at all. There is no need to keep a common "look and feel" with a single message, but as the sample shows, there is a considerable drawback, at least in the monobook skin, when two messages appearing besides each other, and going together, cannont be formatted the same way.
Comment 3 Aryeh Gregor (not reading bugmail, please e-mail directly) 2007-07-01 02:51:31 UTC
Punctuation should always be localized, as far as I'm concerned.  I don't see any reason for it to ever be hardcoded into the software.  Of course, actually moving the punctuation into the message is a nuisance in that the message should really be renamed and backwards compatibility kept if it's to be done properly.
Comment 4 Brion Vibber 2007-07-02 19:37:50 UTC
Same link style as used elsewhere for consistency.
Comment 5 Aryeh Gregor (not reading bugmail, please e-mail directly) 2007-07-02 23:28:28 UTC
Maybe use 'editsection-brackets' (preferably renamed to 'link-brackets' or something) from r23645?  Assuming that stays.
Comment 6 Purodha Blissenbach 2007-07-03 09:40:24 UTC
@Brion: There is not compatibility to maintai with "elsewhere" - the contary is true, this is a solitarian message, and using layout styles of other messages is outright wrong.

To be more precise: []s are being used auto-inserted next to headlines genereated from ==, ===, etc. Here is no such headline next to Sitenotice_close.

@Simetrical: This does NOT look like a solution for me. If I understood it right, you can choose to remove the []s from BOTH editsections AND Sitenotice close, or from none of them.

Sitenotice close is a completely different type of message from Editsection. There is no point in forcibly putting them together. I don't mind [editsection] to remain as it is,
but I do want

[

Sitenotice
close

]

to look more proper.
Comment 7 Brion Vibber 2007-07-03 18:02:27 UTC
> @Brion: There is not compatibility to maintai with "elsewhere" - the contary is
> true, this is a solitarian message, and using layout styles of other messages
> is outright wrong.

Well, I respectfully disagree. As another part of the wiki user interface, it should remain consistent with other parts of the wiki user interface unless there is a good reason for it. The only reason I see stated above is that you think they're ugly, which I disagree with.

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