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Bug 1012 - Add evaluation param to action=raw and Special:Export page
Add evaluation param to action=raw and Special:Export page
Status: RESOLVED DUPLICATE of bug 208
Product: MediaWiki
Classification: Unclassified
Categories (Other open bugs)
unspecified
PC All
: Normal enhancement (vote)
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Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
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Reported: 2004-12-05 23:56 UTC by S.F. Keller
Modified: 2009-12-30 05:15 UTC (History)
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Description S.F. Keller 2004-12-05 23:56:46 UTC
For a reading (and giving later back!) information from Wikipedia or other MediaWikis 
we need to get data from a Machine-
friendly_wiki_interface. Categories help us selecting well specified content. 

Now the command http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategorie:Foo?action=raw" as well as 
Special:Export do a good job. The problem is, that for categories "action=raw" 
returns the wiki tags. But what we need is the evaluated content, i.e. the list of 
articles like they are presented in HTML in default mode.

How about a keyword "evaluated" (and an option in Special:Export) in addition to 
action=raw? 

Say like this: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategorie:Ort_in_der_Schweiz?
action=raw&evaluated. Instead of ([[Kategorie: ....]] ....) this would give a list of 
all articles as a response.
Comment 1 S.F. Keller 2005-03-28 21:57:35 UTC
I have looked again what has been proposed until today I found this:
* The most similar to this is "Bug 208: API for external access" 
* And Some requests at Wikitech-l like a "Minimalistic Web-API for use by Tools
nad Bots" at
http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2004-September/025373.html .

Thes are solutions proposed so far:
1. Use Special:Export with XML (Wikipedia built-in)
2. Use action=raw (Wikipedia built-in) with Wiki-Text (e.g. with an Java-API) 
3. Use the Phyton Framework on Wikipedia-HTML
4. Use Perl on a SQL-Dump of Wikipedia

Remarks:

1. Special:Export uses an XML where I am not shure if it is well defined for
long term use (found: http://wikipedia.sourceforge.net/xml/export-0.1.xsd). 

2. action=raw is the same as users/editors see thus "the original" format (there
ist a 
Java API prototype underway; see here
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimaps/GeonamenDB#Java)

3. The Phyton Framework was mentioned sometimes and we tested it: This is based
on screen scraping HTML the Wikipedia-Output; so this is definitely error prone
an breaks potentially after changes in Mediawiki and even on individual Style
Sheets.

4. Using Perl on a SQL-Dump of Wikipedia reads Wiki-Text (like 2.) and is
limited on local installations.

So; the most promising approach to me is still "action=raw". But - as mentioned
in this bug (= feature request) - we still need an extension in case of categories!

=> Can anyone point me to where to begin in the Wikimedia-PHP code?

Stefan
Comment 2 Brion Vibber 2005-03-29 00:22:02 UTC
action=raw and Special:Export are for accessing editable page text.

Things like category memberships are a distinct kind of data, and require a distinct kind of interface.
Comment 3 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 2005-05-14 15:52:34 UTC
This would ideally be part of some future SOAP API, marking it as a duplicate of
bug 208.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 208 ***
Comment 4 S.F. Keller 2005-05-14 21:07:22 UTC
I would like to thank the former committers for paying attention to this
request, but pointing to #208 resolves only part of it. 

Please let me point you to the following: This bug report mentions two requests
("get article by name" and "get category by category_name") and proposes one
possible API as a solution via HTTP/URI (see "REST"
http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?RestArchitecturalStyle). Now you propose SOAP as another
solution - which is alright too. But: 

1. Please don't forget in the SOAP API of #208 to include "get category..." and 

2. don't consider SOAP as the only API: RESTful is most probably more adapted to
this simple request with one(!) parameter for getting back an XML and/or a Wiki
text stream. RESTful means simply parametrized HTTP GET (POST, UPDATE,...) calls
and is definitely less time consuming as well as easier to implement than SOAP.
Comment 5 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 2005-05-15 00:45:48 UTC
> 2. don't consider SOAP as the only API: RESTful is most probably more adapted to
> this simple request with one(!) parameter for getting back an XML and/or a Wiki
> text stream. RESTful means simply parametrized HTTP GET (POST, UPDATE,...) calls
> and is definitely less time consuming as well as easier to implement than SOAP.

Our needs aren't simple, ideally a SOAP api would handle all sorts of stuff such
as getting edit histories, feeds, rendered html, stuff that links to page $1 and
so on, also, there are standard API's for most programming languages that
implement it.

I'm closing the bug again, please make further comments at bug 208 if you want
to suggest other APIs.



*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 208 ***

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