Last modified: 2013-12-15 02:08:43 UTC
The Flow extension for user-to-user communication is running on ee-flow.wmflabs.org and on the beta cluster, but interested users don't stick around for dialog, and the lack of SUL is a barrier. So the Flow team would like to get early feedback and testing from users on a production wiki. Only one or two Talk:Flow_Portal/Xx pages on mediawiki.org will have Flow enabled. We will submit the config change and continue conversations with Ops and security.
Any reason not to enable Flow on the phase 0 wikis (testwiki, test2wiki, mediawikiwiki)?
Change 94106 had a related patch set uploaded by Spage: Enable Flow discussions on a few test wiki pages https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94106
Any reason to do this when known major bugs like the lack of all history are not solved? I understand the need for more feedback, but the history (contributions, view history, watchlist, recent changes) needs to be correct, complete, and usable before rolling this out any further.
(In reply to comment #3) > Any reason to do this when known major bugs like the lack of all history are > not solved? Yes there are. We want to test the technical aspect of having a cross-wiki DB on an external cluster, which is hard to simulate on labs instances. Also not having single user-login is a disincentive for a lot of would-be testers (thanks for participating despite that). Terminology is confusing, I wouldn't consider this a roll-out or a release.
(In reply to comment #4) > (In reply to comment #3) > > Any reason to do this when known major bugs like the lack of all history are > > not solved? > > Yes there are. We want to test the technical aspect of having a cross-wiki DB > on an external cluster, which is hard to simulate on labs instances. Also not > having single user-login is a disincentive for a lot of would-be testers > (thanks for participating despite that). Terminology is confusing, I wouldn't > consider this a roll-out or a release. Fair enough. I'll complain a lot harder if you would try the same at enwiki (where deployments were planned as well, but seem to be postponed for the moment, I hope).
(In reply to comment #4) > Yes there are. We want to test the technical aspect of having a cross-wiki DB > on an external cluster, which is hard to simulate on labs instances. Then we need a better testing infrastructure. Please file appropriate bugs where gaps currently exist. > Terminology is confusing, I wouldn't consider this a roll-out or a release. Terminology is confusing when people intentionally subvert natural meanings of standard words. This bug is most certainly about a (limited) roll-out/release.
Now scheduled for Tuesday, December 10, 2013.
We need a DBA to CREATE DATABASE flowdb on extension1 cluster. I filed RT ticket 6486, https://rt.wikimedia.org/SelfService/Display.html?id=6486 This and remaining deployment steps are in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Flow_Portal/2013-12_Devployment#Deploy_steps
Change 94106 merged by jenkins-bot: Enable Flow on a few wikis (but no pages) https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94106
mediawiki.org Talk:Flow went live at 2013-12-11 15:24 PST! Thanks everyone.
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/100911 --- Enable Flow on a few pages On testwiki, test2wiki, and mw.org, enable Flow for 'Talk:Flow QA', 'Talk:Sandbox' (and 'Talk:Flow' on mw.org) ---