Last modified: 2013-06-18 13:37:38 UTC
Would one of the devs be able to /dev/null the mail invitations from LinkedIn that make the mailing lists? There are some simple lines in the headers that would enable the mail to flicked either globally by the mail server, or presumably by the list software. Received: from maild-bd.linkedin.com ([216.52.242.161]:54466) by lily.knams.wikimedia.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) X-LinkedIn-Template: invite_guest_59 X-LinkedIn-Class: INVITE-GUEST X-LinkedIn-fbl: s-v9FvDjY93SMCw2LCDeH--JPOI4MtdaGj1gFFEDerfK1tZt2hQCmNl3
It's also possible to request LinkedIn blacklist the list address and add it to their "do not contact" list. You can do that by contacting their customer service. Adrignola recently did this for all of the OTRS addresses. It's a pretty simple and straight-forward process. I tried to ask LinkedIn's customer service a few weeks ago if they could blacklist the entire lists.wikimedia.org domain, but they said they could only block specific addresses and not an entire domain. You could send them a list of the lists you want them to block though, and I'm sure they'd be okay with handling it. It's a lot better to handle this issue by stopping the mails at the source rather than dealing with them after they're already here.
(In reply to comment #1) > I tried to ask LinkedIn's customer service a few weeks ago if they could > blacklist the entire lists.wikimedia.org domain, but they said they could only > block specific addresses and not an entire domain. You could send them a list > of the lists you want them to block though, and I'm sure they'd be okay with > handling it. quick and easily list of all our public listed lists (according to the MM interface) so who ever wants can send it in: > Accounts-enwiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Ambassador-announce-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Best-practices@lists.wikimedia.org > Bilderberg-l@lists.wikimedia.org > BLP_Task_Force@lists.wikimedia.org > Bureaucrats-nl-wikipedia@lists.wikimedia.org > Car-fr-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Chapters-reports@lists.wikimedia.org > CheckUser-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Chip-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Commons-poty@lists.wikimedia.org > ComProj@lists.wikimedia.org > Contact-nl@lists.wikimedia.org > Crc-es-l@lists.wikimedia.org > CVN@lists.wikimedia.org > CVN-private@lists.wikimedia.org > Daily-article-l@lists.wikimedia.org > daily-image-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Destacado-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Devnations-l@lists.wikimedia.org > 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-shell, anybody with the ambition can reach out to LinkedIn with this list (per Casey's experience with OTRS)
Is it worth getting OTRS to undertake, hence a record is maintained of the communication?
Oh well, this unofficial bunny will try to do so. Let's see if I have success. Thanks for the list.
The LinkedIn corporation is unable to control what they send. You'll have to stop it on the Wikimedia end of things. The LinkedIn staff have for months tried for me to stop a weekly reminder to me sent from their servers, but were unable. They just can't hack it.
(In reply to comment #6) > The LinkedIn corporation is unable to control what they send. > You'll have to stop it on the Wikimedia end of things. > The LinkedIn staff have for months tried for me to stop a weekly reminder to me > sent from their servers, but were unable. > > They just can't hack it. We got them to block e-mails to the OTRS e-mail addresses, I imagine they can do the same for lists.wikimedia.org as well (per the comments above).
jidanni: That is codswallop or poor design. I would even start with discussion that their imitating the user's email address is a poor practice; or a lack of willingness to respond to a single user complaint, ie. you = noise or collateral damage. They are clueless at the initial level of response is my first comment, they asked for me to do a webshot, I mean FFS! I will keep trying and may even withhold some level of snarky sarcasm. We can just escalate escalate escalate until we find someone clueful.
I didn't run into any issues last time I requested it. What did you ask, specifically? Maybe the guy was just confused. You should say something like "Please stop sending invitations and other e-mails from LinkedIn to the following addresses. They are mailing lists and not individual people. Our lists are getting spammed. List:"
I don't get it, I see member@linkedin.com in the From: header, can't we just blacklist it everywhere? (In reply to comment #5) > Oh well, this unofficial bunny will try to do so. Let's see if I have success. I suggest to add to the movement roles group tasks the issue of who should decide who is an official bunny, to help people who want to work like this.
(In reply to comment #8) > We can just escalate escalate escalate until we find someone clueful. Been there. Done that. I now just put header J_CANT_STOP Subject =~ /^LinkedIn Network Updates/ score J_CANT_STOP 222 in SpamAssassin and be done with it.
@Casey Brown #9 I pulled out my old postmaster@ hat, and asked so nicely ... I even typed slowly ;-) <paste> Subject: Stopping invitations being sent to Mediawiki's mailing lists ... Wikimedia's mailing lists are getting your invitations as your settings do not distinguish between what is a mailing list, and what is not. It would be really helpful if you would be able to exclude the mailing lists below from any of your invitation mail outs. Thanks. For detail see the included url. </paste>
If they need it to come from a more official address, I can get some Ops to do it. or use webmaster@wikimedia.org. Reopen if Andrew's message didn't do the trick.
(In reply to comment #13) So, sending a email to Linkedin fixed the problem! If I send an email to Google, maybe that will also fix Google problems. Same with Facebook. One little email. Doesn't matter if they got it. And even if they did, and promised you the world... with their auto reply system that looks extremely like real people, until the third interaction or so... when you find their messages are the same.
*** Bug 29526 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Some success ...the email addresses provided have been added to our "do not contact" list... BUT The following email addresses could not be added as they were confirmed email addresses registered to an active LinkedIn account. ComProj@lists.wikimedia.org Daily-article-l@lists.wikimedia.org foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org MediaWiki-announce@lists.wikimedia.org MediaWiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unblock-pt-l@lists.wikimedia.org Wikiar-l@lists.wikimedia.org Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Wikimedia-in-blr@lists.wikimedia.org WikimediaBR-l@lists.wikimedia.org WikimediaIE@lists.wikimedia.org Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org WikimediaKE@lists.wikimedia.org Wikinews-l@lists.wikimedia.org WikiNO-l@lists.wikimedia.org WikiPT@lists.wikimedia.org Wikiversity-l@lists.wikimedia.org Wikiversity-l@lists.wikimedia.org I am going to send emails to each of the listowners and they will have to follow up individually.
(In reply to comment #16) Ahhh, nuke 'em. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvzOyyr8pPw&list=PL6E40919035151385
(In reply to comment #16) > Some success > > ...the email addresses provided have been added to our "do not contact" list... > > BUT > > The following email addresses could not be added as they were confirmed email > addresses registered to an active LinkedIn account. Keep in mind that some of those accounts were set up in order to opt-out of the emails, as often people thought that was the only way to opt-out. Of course the settings are quite difficult to get to in the account manager. Why not just provide an opt-out link, LinkedIn? (In reply to comment #16) Composing a response off a spam OTRS ticket and altering the subject and destination gets a message sent from a Wikimedia email address. That's what I did as referenced in comment 1.